Work Life with Taylor Vanderzwet
Show Notes:
Dealing with the post-concussion syndrome is hard, but when the healthcare system is set up to devalue one’s cries for help, things go from bad to worse. Today we speak to Taylor Vanderzwet about her experiences with post-concussion syndrome, how she is managing her symptoms, and how she got to a place mentally where she was strong enough to defend herself against authority figures who didn’t take her seriously. Taylor begins by telling the story of the three different concussions she suffered from 2015 to 2019, the most recent being a workplace incident that ended up derailing her life quite significantly. Taylor speaks about the range of physical, emotional, and cognitive symptoms she is now dealing with, and the useless advice her family doctor gave her which did not help matters at all. For Taylor, one of the biggest challenges has been trying to integrate back into her the harsh environment of her workplace. She talks about how she has had to fight to be heard by the Workplace Safety and Insurance Board to get financial support and a less strenuous work routine. While it has been a struggle for Taylor, we also talk about some of the help she has gotten from different professionals. She speaks about how much of a blessing it has been for her to speak to a psychotherapist so that she could be heard and also develop crucial self-love skills she needs to be able to keep advocating for the validity of her experiences.
Key Points From This Episode:
The stories behind Taylor’s three concussions and the effects they had on her.
Bad advice Taylor got from her family doctor after her third concussion.
The physical, emotional, and cognitive symptoms of Taylor’s last concussion.
Frustration Taylor feels about health practitioners making light of her symptoms.
How appreciative Taylor is about the support she gets from her osteopath.
Taylor’s realization about the importance of self-care and that she needs to put her health first.
Struggles Taylor has had at work with her health and how she has tried to adjust.
Heightened sensitivity to smell and sound that Taylor struggles with at work.
Taylor’s struggles with the WSIB in qualifying to receive support through her recovery.
Advice from Taylor about the need to stand up for oneself to get healthcare support and be heard.
How annoying it is hearing healthcare practitioners assess your symptoms as stress-based.
The immense help Taylor has found in her sessions with a psychotherapist and why.
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[INTRODUCTION]
[0:00:05.2] BP: Hi, I’m your host Bella Paige and welcome to The Post Concussion Podcast, all about life after experiencing a concussion. Help us make the invisible injury become visible.
The Post Concussion Podcast is strictly an information podcast about concussions and post-concussion syndrome. It does not provide nor substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or another qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on this podcast. The opinions expressed in this podcast are simply intended to spark discussion about concussions and post-concussion syndrome.
Welcome to today’s episode of The Post Concussion Podcast with myself, Bella Paige and todays’ guest, Taylor Vanderzwet. Taylor is from Port Perry Ontario and has sustained three concussions from 2015 to 2019. Her last concussion was a workplace injury and has resulted in her having post-concussion syndrome and some terrible other stressors. Taylor is now dedicated to helping other healing warriors find calm within their own journey. She has learned that self-care and love make all the difference when navigating through something terrible like this.
Taylor also holds an ecosystem management technologist diploma and loves to be active and in the outdoors.
[INTERVIEW]
[0:01:43.6] BP: Welcome to the show Taylor.
[0:01:45.5] TV: Thank you so much for having me.
[0:01:47.0] BP: Do you want to tell everyone a little bit about your injuries and how they occurred?
[0:01:52.6] TV: Before I start, I’ll just mention, my concussion stories are a little different than ones you might have heard before. My first one which happened in 2015, which I would say is my most common concussion that people would maybe suffer or you know, get one. It was a car accident so I got a concussion and whiplash from my accident and it took me about a week I would say, to recover from that concussion.
I just remember feeling like really tired but mostly, I was just in pain from the whiplash, that was kind of the majority of it, and then my second concussion, this is probably my weirdest one that I get embarrassed to talk about sometimes. This one happened in 2017 and I was actually at a college party with some friends and I was just sitting down on the couch in a group, chatting.
Someone decided to throw a full beer can across the room and it exploded off of my left temple, which was very horrible and the time I was –
[0:02:58.8] BP: That’s crazy.
[0:03:00.6] TV: I always get embarrassed going in the doctor and like telling them.
[0:03:03.6] BP: I actually told my mom about it. The other day, I was like, I’m recording hits week and she got hurt at a party. I think it’s amazing how it can happen anywhere at any time but don’t be embarrassed. One of my best friends got one of her worst ones, she slipped down the stairs, it doesn’t – it can happen anywhere.
[0:03:23.2] TV: It’s so true, yeah. At the time, it was crazy. I just remember being really upset that there’s beer all over me. I don’t like beer and I was just remember being like, what the heck. The fact that I didn’t know who threw it. Healing for that time, I actually didn’t really even realize I had a concussion until about two days later and it was kind of my mom that insisted me going to get checked out so yeah, sure enough, I did and I ended up having to be off work for about two weeks and I literally was just dark room, in bed for two weeks.
I don’t really remember much of that two weeks, I’ll be honest. Kind of escapes me now and then my last concussion, my most recent one which happened in May of 2019. That one is equally as silly, I guess but not as maybe frustrating because someone didn’t throw something, I didn’t know who it was but this one, I was actually cleaning up after retirement party at my work.
I work in an open surface mine so we have to wear personal protective equipment unless we’re in a designated area. For the retirement party my boss had kind of made me like a designated PT smoking area for whoever was smoking who was at the retirement party. She moved one of our larger ashtrays over to that area and when I was cleaning up, I decided, I kind of pushed it, I was like, “It’s not too heavy” I’ll just kind of bearhug the bottom and carry it back to where it was and just to give some context.
They’re like the bigger ashtrays that you would see in front of like restaurants and maybe like stores that kind of have a barrel bottom, thinner tube and then like an opening for you to put the cigarette butt in. I didn’t know but I guess they’re heavily weighted in the bottom with sand for the cigarette butt to go out.
Anyways, I’m carrying this back to its normal place, maybe like 25 meters and I kind of squatted down to set it down and the neck part was resting on my left shoulder and when I set it down, I don’t know what I did but whatever happened, it caused it to kind of sway, the whole ashtray, and the top of it, hit me right on that bone behind your left ear and it hurt like heck.
Initially, I didn’t lose consciousness or anything. I just remember feeling for blood because I was like, there’s no way I’m not – there’s not blood running down my neck right now because it hurt that much. Then I just kind of tried to tough it out for the rest of my workday. I had a couple more hours to get through and by the time I got home, I was like, angry for no reason and that was really weird for me.
I was like, I got a little goose egg, I’m just going to go to bed and everything’s good tomorrow. That was not the case. I did end up going to work but I quickly realized that was not a good decision. My manager actually ended up taking me to that initial doctor’s appointment where I should mention my family doctor told me that I was fine. He pretty much just said, don’t play any contact sports and that was the only thing I got.
That started things off very confusing to say the least with it being a workplace injury.
[0:06:46.2] BP: Great advice, love that.
[0:06:48.2] TV: Yeah, the best.
[0:06:50.8] BP: Don’t play sports. Okay, well that –
[0:06:52.7] TV: Yeah, thank you.
[0:06:53.6] BP: There’s so much more out there than just playing contact sports. People also forget, it’s not just contact sports that you get concussions in.
[0:07:01.6] TV: Yeah, there’s also beer cans and ashtrays, right?
[0:07:04.2] BP: Yeah, exactly. Stairs, doors, car accidents but that is quite the advice. What are your symptoms like right now?
[0:07:14.9] TV: Currently, all my physical symptoms are left sided so pretty well like surrounding kind of the impact area, kind of like my left ear, my left side of my neck and that temporal bone region. I am suffering from severe headaches and migraines around two to three times a week. Sometimes I’m lucky with my medication if I take it in time and I’m able to get out of bed on those days and somewhat kind of function at home. I also have a lot of weird issues with my inner ear.
When I try and do physical activity, when my heart rate gets to a certain point, my left ear physically clogs out until I rest and get my heart rate back down. I have like a liquid or fluid that comes out of my left ear, more present when I’m having those migraines, which is very weird. It almost feels like you know, when you’re kids and someone would like give you – lick their finger and put it in your ear like a wet Willy.
Almost feels like that and because there’s kind of a fluid in my ear, I’m not producing, well, maybe I am producing the same amount of wax on both sides but it’s getting flushed out of my left side. A lot of really weird things that doctors kind of just look at me and they’re like, “Yeah, sure, that’s what is happening.”
Dizziness but pulling only from that left side and its very stationed to that left side and in terms of some cognitive stuff. I mostly struggle with my concentration and memory and I find that gets worse with symptoms. For example, I’ll tell my boyfriend something, maybe on a day that I am really not feeling good and then five minutes later, I’ll tell him the same thing and he’ll be like, “Yup, you said that,” and it’s because I – in my mind, I’m like, I’m there but because I’m having these symptoms I’m not really focusing when I’m talking too so I’m forgetting.
That’s been tough. In terms of emotional, this has been by far my most emotional concussion right from the very beginning. So many tears at the beginning, I was just crying about everything in my life, very emotional and I get very irritated and angry a lot easier now too especially with any type of noise or vibration, I’m like, “If you don’t stop this right now, I need to run away,” or I just want to go and just squeeze my arm.
[0:09:48.1] BP: You want to throw something at you?
[0:09:49.7] TV: Yeah, they’re like, I just couldn’t – throat punch you or something, not actually but you know?
[0:09:54.7] BP: I get it.
[0:09:55.8] TV: I’m never really that type of like, part of my personality where I would have that emotional kind of irritation or anger, that’s totally something new. Navigating with that, through that has been a journey. My boyfriend’s learned to be very patient with me and sometimes when I get angry, he’s just like, “Yeah, this will pass.”
[0:10:18.6] BP: I get the ear thing, I’ve never had that but I know, I get cluster headaches, which aren’t exactly related to my concussion headaches but when I do my nose runs on the one side of my face where it happens and it’s like a really common symptom.
I get the emotion thing, I used to just cry for no reason. I wouldn’t be sad, I wouldn’t be happy, I’d just cry or the snapping about the noise. My little sister likes to make a lot of noise, she’s not that much younger than me but it’s kind of her personality and I like to snap.
“If you’re not going to stop that, I am literally, I want to throw all these at you, please stop.” She’s like, “Woah, extreme,” and I’m like, “Sorry.” I get the pain. If you are in pain, a lot of the times you don’t realize how much your attention isn’t to where you’re at right now because when I’m having conversations with people, it’s not that I find I repeat what I said.
I find that I completely forget where our conversation is at. If I have a really bad headache and they have no idea because I don’t tell everyone every day, I have a really bad headache. I’m talking to them and all of a sudden I’m like, “Oh no,” my brain just goes completely blank on me.
I’m like, “I have no idea what we’re talking about.” Hopefully someone else will say something because I’m sorry but I’ve lost complete train of thought, everything is gone. Are you doing anything to manage your symptoms, what have you found works best so far?
[0:11:53.9] TV: What I kind of found the most helpful to date in terms of seeing a health practitioner and stuff, the most helpful I have found is seeing my osteopath actually. For partly for the work that she does but the other part is because she gets me.
She understands what my injury is and she’s like, she gives me support in the way that she’s like, “You poor thing, you’ve had to deal with this?” and people haven’t been understanding and that kind of support, when, after you’ve seen so many doctors and so many people that have made you feel like you're almost making things up or something like that, it’s priceless to get that kind of acknowledgement from someone.
She does great work but just also the kind of understanding human being she is, is amazing. The second thing and the biggest thing that took me a while to learn was just being kind to myself and listening to myself and not putting those outside expectations and pressures on myself because that has been huge.
There is many days where I would choose staying at work in noise, over having to deal with the confrontation to tell my boss or to call WSIB or to even, to the point to miss out on pay because I need to pay my bills.
I’ve just kind of gotten to the point now where it’s like, “I surrender.” Nothing else is more important than this body right here, that’s the most important thing to me and if I’m going to heal, I have to – I’ve learned I got to show myself that because pushing, staying at work or staying in a situation that is flaring up my symptoms or making me feel worse just makes the healing a little bit harder.
Learning to listen is huge and hard to listen to yourself.
[0:13:55.6] BP: It is hard, it’s hard to not ignore, your body’s telling you no and you’re like, “It’s fine.”
[0:14:00.2] TV: Yeah, I can do this.
[0:14:02.2] BP: Yeah, it’s fine, just a couple more hours and then you pay for it later. Putting your health first is huge, you can’t always do that. Obviously, sometimes life just doesn’t work were like you are at work and you’re in the middle of something, it’s like, “Okay, well, I’m going to have to stay for another hour,” but it is good to realize, “Okay, after this, I need to go home, I need to rest,” and kind of change your day a little bit.
Getting injured at work has got to be stressful. How are you able to – you are working now so have you made any adjustments at your workplace to make it more suitable, have you been able to do that?
[0:14:36.9] TV: It’s been a journey with my work, it’s very hard because the nature of my job is construction. There is heavy equipment. I’m constantly in and out of the shop and driving by the shop.
My position at the surface mine is a quality control technician so I’m out in the field, sampling and then back in the lab testing and we’re testing up to 50 pounds of dirt at a time so it’s very heavy and very noisy when it’s shaking.
That was the main thing for me, it was noise and vibration. At first, there was a lot of shuffling around. I was moved to a different surface mine in Steelville. Horrible idea, they put me in the scale house where the whole trucks were constantly driving by and talking on their radio and it’s the first building that anyone comes into when they visit site so it’s so busy.
That didn’t work and then I was back to my site in a – like a little trailer that they ordered and just plopped on the grass. That would have been an okay option but the trailer they got had just been stained or the floor have been very thin or something so the smell was so strong and leeched into the whole trailer that I couldn’t sit in there.
Back to the shop I went after that and they ended up setting me up in the storage room and this is back to October 2019. I got set-up in the storage room. I’m currently still there, it’s been tough sitting in a storage room. It isn’t the most visually pleasing space or you don’t really feel accomplished sitting in a place like that, trying to do work.
I am on modified hours. Initially when they brought me back, I was – by September of 2019, I was up to six hours a day, five days a week and I was completely feeling like I was drowning.
I had to speak up because I was having some very dark thoughts and some things with my mental health were turning very bad very quickly and I had to speak up to my work and to WSIB and I ended up getting reassessed and I am currently still working only 18-hour weeks. I fluctuate between a five-hour day and a four-hour day and then one day off.
[0:17:06.2] BP: Well, you have to figure out what works for you. I could see the storage room thing definitely being difficult especially mentally because you’re kind of isolated.
[0:17:14.5] TV: Yeah.
[0:17:15.0] BP: I also get the smell thing. I actually went to the dentist this morning and they got like a bite plane and the glue or whatever smell molding stuff that they use. I was like, “Oh no, my day is going to be over.” I’m like, “Oh this is so strong” and they’re like warned me that it tastes bad but I don’t think they thought like, “Oh and the smell,” the smell was brutal but because I am sensitive to smell. I was like, “Oh no please, I hope this stops,” and luckily I was okay an hour after I left.
Smells can definitely affect you but it is good that at least they tried. I am glad to see that you kept getting different situations like hopefully they find something even better or maybe you can decorate it, I don’t know, add some plants. Make it a little bit more welcoming, that would be nice, right?
[0:18:05.6] TV: Yeah.
[0:18:07.0] BP: You can connect with Taylor on her own website called taylortonature.com as well as @taylortonature on Instagram. Both will be found in our episode description and show notes but with that, we’re going to take a break. Be sure to stay tuned for our talk on workplace safety insurance and therapy.
[BREAK]
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[INTERVIEW CONTINUED]
[0:18:59.2] BP: Welcome back to the Post Concussion Podcast with myself, Bella Paige and today’s guest Taylor Vanderzwet. We’ve talked about a lot so far but we’re going to talk about WSIB but if you’re not in Ontario, that’s Workplace Safety and Insurance Board, which is kind of the governing body for when you get hurt of anything that really goes wrong at work and they help you with getting money, time off work, sometimes they don’t help you at all but that’s kind of what they are.
I thought we talk about it because there’s lots of people that I see in forums or I get messages about work issues and this is Ontario’s but I am sure it’s pretty similar to a lot of the other ones out there. Do you want to tell us a little bit about the process, Taylor, because you know a lot more than I do?
[0:19:50.3] TV: Yeah, for sure. What happens with a claim with the WSIB is one that initial injury or whatever happens at work is reported to their manager or your employer, what they have to do is kind of fill out like an incident report and that gets funneled through the safety managers in my company I work for as well as WSIB because my work pays into WSIB so that if people do get injured, that they have this insurance company there for them.
That’s what happened at the beginning. Initially I was off work for about a month and a half and during that time WSIB covered 85% of my wages. That part of it was really nice that you don’t have to worry about losing your wages like you know I thought many times that if I’ve got this injury even at home, the same injury kind of deal like I don’t know what I even would have done for like work and stuff.
[0:20:53.7] BP: Yeah, for sure like income, completely.
[0:20:55.7] TV: Yeah, it would have been crazy so that is something that was nice from the beginning to know that I had that income coming in because I can do anything about it and then what happens, I wasn’t feeling like I was getting better or improving. What WSIB does is they have kind of third party clinics and doctors that they contract their claims too and then they report back to WSIB and they get information on your medical.
That’s what ended up happening to me. I got streamlined to a facility called Altum Health and I saw a doctor through them. She was just a general practitioner doctor that they had hired to come meet me that day. I told her all my symptoms and I was really struggling and I didn’t feel like I was getting better. She just said, “Okay, you’re good to go back to work anyways.” I did mention about my family doctor, he wasn’t being very supportive.
I really couldn’t go to him kind of to argue this because that’s what the doctor said and he would probably say the same thing because he told me two months before that just to not play sports. Yes, I ended up having what happens is you get assigned a case manager and a return to work specialist and that’s just when you’ve lost time or you have to go on modified duties you get the return work specialist. We had a meeting at my work about a week after that doctor’s appointment.
That’s kind of where they figure out what your schedule can be, what can work, when they’re going to increase your hours and what suitable job duties are for you. That is all based on the doctor’s assessments and so we keep going if things work in a perfect world. You keep improving and you go back to work. That’s not what happened with me because I – my workplace has a lot of noise and vibration as I mentioned and that is one of my barriers to getting back to work.
I was declining very much trying to get back to work. By September, I actually – they had sent an occupational therapist into my workplace to kind of like assess it and then I was sent through physio through Altum Health and that streamlined all of this health care that was governed by WSIB because when you are not getting better, they like to have a little closer look on things to see what is going on. That is kind of what happened with me.
Then from there, you just keep having these specialist appointments. If you are getting better these reports are made, the return to work meetings continue until ideally you’re able to do your pre-injury duties. Yeah, so currently I am still – I am in the process of really trying my best to get back to my pre-injury duties. I am almost at two years of my injury and I know at that point there is WSIB has like a regulation that my work has the obligation to re-employ me at that two year point.
If they decide that I’m not able to do my pre-injury duties or they don’t have an employment opportunity for me then it’s a little bit kind of back to the drawing board. I’m not sure what’s going to happen at that point, so a lot of unknowns.
[0:24:16.6] BP: It sounds like it. Do you have any tips for individuals going through something similar that you kind of learned through the process?
[0:24:24.3] TV: Yes, be a self-advocate. Don’t be scared to stand up for yourself or scared that you are going to upset someone either in a doctor’s office or on the phone with WSIB. Keep fighting. I personally with my claim was denied the entitlement of headaches and migraines from the very beginning of my claim and it’s just gotten to the point now almost two years into it that I’ve had enough doctors report on my symptoms that my case manager has ‘decided’.
I could say that in quotations because I think it’s really ridiculous but I am allowed to have headaches now so hurray.
[0:25:08.8] BP: Nice, this is considered part of the problem.
[0:25:12.2] TV: Yeah, so that was a huge stressor, so you know, if you are feeling ignored or anything with this situation, keep pushing, keep trying. If you have to get a new family doctor, do it. I did it, just keep going. Take breaks in between and rest yourself for sure but someone will listen to you and things will get better but you’ve got to – you really have to stand up for yourself and in this world for sure.
[0:25:37.7] BP: Yeah, it’s really common especially in the brain injury world.
[0:25:40.5] TV: Yes.
[0:25:41.0] BP: That’s some great advice and as you kind of mentioned this stress so it’s just stress is one of the most common things we’ve all been told especially as a girl or a woman and then on top of the whole headache thing, everyone always goes, “Oh it’s stress.” How did you handle being told that?
[0:26:01.6] TV: It declined my mental health huge hearing that. The first time that that kept being kind of repeated to me was when I was doing physio actually the first time, you get like this degree of like you’re being dismissed. They want you there because you need to be there to get better but they don’t want to take the time to truly help what your issues are and in my mind, I feel like saying, “Oh you’re stressed,” is an easy way to say, “I don’t really know what’s going on but I’m just going to say that anyways because it is something to say.”
When in reality, I think I would rather someone just say, “I don’t know why you’re having that symptom,” rather than then saying, “It’s stress,” because you know, if I’ve taken the point and the time to come to this appointment and to sit and talk and tell you about my symptoms, it’s for a reason. It’s very hard and I also at the beginning, I really started to second guess myself. I almost was like, “Am I going, you know, am I kind of losing my mind a little bit?”
Am I feeling things that aren’t happening? Am I making this pain up? Do I just not want to go to work? You know I was questioning all of these things against my character, which I know weren’t true but you get to that point after people just telling you it’s just stress after a period of time.
[0:27:30.0] BP: You do, yeah because I remember I had one doctor who told me that maybe like the headaches were in my head and I remembered like kind of going a little nuts after because well one, I was really mad because no, I am not making this up. I am definitely not in a doctor’s office on purpose. The other problem was I was like, “Well maybe. Am I making them worse? Can I make them less?” Am I thinking about them too much?
Then you’re just kind of spiral from there and it’s really hard to deal with and I know you’ve worked with a psychologist and still do. How do you find that’s helped you?
[0:28:07.7] TV: It has changed the game for me. I should have mentioned that was one of the most helpful things. I’ve been seeing her for over a year now that it’s just part of my routine now and I am still comfortable with her. When I started seeing her, I was kind of at the point where I was questioning whether I wanted to live in this world anymore because things were becoming unmanageable for me. It took me probably about four sessions to not cry the whole time.
Which is totally fine because that’s the most beautiful thing is to have that release with someone and like be able to get all of that sadness out that you’ve been holding up inside. It’s good to cry. I sometimes refer to her as just like a friend even because I look forward to talking to her every week but I know that she’s not just a friend because sometimes you know, the reason why I’m a big advocate for talking to a psychotherapist or a therapist is because that’s their profession.
They’re paid to sit there and listen to you and they are trained in proper techniques to help you or you know, certain exercises or breathing techniques. Whereas it’s great to have that support system at home as well. I have a great relationship with my mom and my friends and I tell my mom everything but at the end of the day, you know, we are human and you know I’m guilty for this too that maybe, you know, even my boyfriend one day is having a bad a day and he’ll come to me and be like, “Oh I am having a really bad day,” and maybe I’m not going to accept that as much.
I’ll be like, “Well, I had a bad day too,” and you know what? That’s not very helpful for someone that’s coming to you, looking for some insight on how to help themselves feel better and there’s nothing wrong with that because we’re human. Of course we relate to things, I mean that’s fine but a psychotherapist or a psychologist or a therapist psychiatrist that’s their job. It’s to sit there and listen to you and help you and let me tell you, it makes a huge difference.
I have so much more confidence in myself, the reason why I’m able to be a self-advocate is because I have her support behind me, world changing for going through concussion seriously.
[0:30:32.0] BP: No, I agree. I definitely am a huge pusher for it because like you said, that support team is awesome but they’re not trained. They care about you a lot but they’re also not going to give you the tools for help because it’s not just about venting it out. It is also about all of the things that they give you back that they can use when you are not sitting in that room so it is really important to get those and talk to a professional and there is no shame in it.
[0:30:58.9] TV: No.
[0:30:59.3] BP: I have no problem with it and you don’t have to do it forever either. I know people that have gone for a few months and then never – and then they take a break and they’ve gone back at certain points in their life or they’ve gone and then they’ve never gone back again and that’s totally fine or you go and you stick to it forever because like –
[0:31:15.2] TV: Because you love it.
[0:31:16.1] BP: Yeah, it helps you then why not? It’s good to at least try it and also remember that one cycle, if they might not be the best match for you because I definitely talk to a few like in one-time situations when I was going through a lot of testing and therapy and things and I didn’t mix with a lot of them. They just weren’t the right person for me and my situation and it doesn’t mean they weren’t very good at their job. It’s just that we didn’t click so it is important to try someone.
If it doesn’t work after a few, maybe try someone else because it doesn’t mean that therapy isn’t working. It just means that your relationship with that therapist may not be the best situation for you.
[0:31:57.7] TV: Definitely.
[0:31:59.3] BP: Is there anything else you would like to add before ending today’s episode?
[0:32:04.7] TV: Just to you Bella, I just wanted to thank you for creating this community and starting this podcast. When you first get a concussion, you’re trying to heal and you’re looking for all of this information and you feel so alone and I just – I can’t, you know, I know word finding, here it is. I know I can’t stress enough how important it is to have this as a tool out there and I just thank you very much and I am very appreciative to get to speak with you today.
[0:32:35.0] BP: Well, thank you and thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your insights on living post-concussion.
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